The Secret of a New Life - SFC2206

SPEAKER A Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. SPEAKER B Would you like to better understand the Bible? How can you grow as a Christian and find personal peace? What happens at the second coming of Jesus? What is the relevance of Bible prophecy today? How do you identify a cult? What happens when you die? Here is your opportunity to find answers to these and many other questions by exploring 30 not only relevant, but life changing topics that await your discovery. Welcome to search for certainty. I'm glad you could join us today. I'm your host, Gayl Fong, and with me in the studio today is Hana Nakagawa. Welcome, Hana. SPEAKER D Thank you, Gayl. SPEAKER C Last time, we studied how to have personal peace. This time it's the secret of a new life and the power for living. And have you ever wondered how you can become the person you really want to be? Why is it that when we try so hard, we fail so often? At times we seem to be prisoners of our habits, chained in the dungeon of evil desires, unaided by the grace of God. We are all helpless prisoners. We are captives of our fallen sinful nature. We may desire to change, but we don't have the power to change. Separated from God, we are subject to death. The death of Jesus paid the penalty of sin for every person. However, this gift must be accepted individually, and it becomes effective when a person chooses to acknowledge Jesus as Saviour. God's grace provides pardon from the penalty of sin. It also provides new power for living. So in our lesson study today, we're going to discover the real secret of power for living in the 21st century. And before we begin, Hana, would you invite the Holy Spirit to be with us in prayer? SPEAKER D Sure. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we praise you. We thank you Lord, for giving us new day of life today. Thank you so much for loving us. Thank you for caring for us. As we open the scripture and discover the secret of new life, we invite your Holy Spirit to be with us. Please guide us, lead us and give us understanding. And please speak to our heart. Pray all these things in Jesus precious name. Amen. SPEAKER C Amen. Thank you so much, Hana. Well, what promise does the Scripture give for those who surrender their lives to Christ? Two Corinthians, chapter five and verse 17. If you could read that for us, Hana. SPEAKER D Sure. It says, therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. All things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new. SPEAKER C Wow. That's amazing. Isn't it? So anyone who belongs to Christ can become a new creature? Will become a new creature. Well, let's unpack this a little more. Can human beings accomplish this? Change themselves? We look to the book of Job. Job, chapter 14 and verse four, and Job's in the Old Testament. The book just before the Psalm. SPEAKER D Jobs 14, verse four, it says, who can bring unclean things out of unclean? No one. SPEAKER C Well, that's one answer. What about Jeremiah? In the Old Testament, chapter 13 and verse 23? SPEAKER D Jeremiah 13, verse 23, it says, can the Ethiopians change his skin or the leopard its spot? Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil. SPEAKER C Wow. So according to those verses, can I change myself or I can't change myself? SPEAKER D Well, it is a very interesting verse that can Ethiopian changes his skin or leopard? It's both. Surely they cannot. And if they can't, we as human who are accustomed to evil, we cannot also do good things, so we cannot change ourselves. SPEAKER C Amen. Hana, without Jesus'power, we can actually do nothing. We are powerless in our own strength. Wow. That's quite a challenging thought. And how did Jesus describe this change to respectable, God fearing Nicodemus? And we're going to the book of John, the Gospel of John, chapter three. And we're reading the passage verses one through to eight. SPEAKER D Yes, John three, one to eight. It says, There was a man of Pharisee named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jew. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, rabbi, we know that you are teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him. Jesus answered and said to him, most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus said to him, how can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born? Jesus answered, most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, you must be born again. The wind blows weight wishes and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit. SPEAKER C So from the words of Christ himself, he's saying to Nicodemus, who was the a very religious man. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C And he's telling him, you must be born again. SPEAKER D Probably. It's a very surprising thing for him. Maybe he thought that he can be in heaven because of his righteousness or because he's Jewish. But Jesus clearly said, you need to be born again. SPEAKER C Amen. Born of water and of the Spirit. So not talking of physical birth, but a spiritual birth? SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C Well, how does this miraculous change take place? We're going to the New Testament, galatians, chapter two and verse 20. SPEAKER D Yes. The Bible says, I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. And the life which I now live in the flesh. I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. SPEAKER C That's an amazing verse, isn't it? I have been crucified with Christ. Well, when Christ was crucified, he certainly died physical. But in this sense, it's no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. So there's a death to self happening here. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C Subduing of what I want, and a willingness and a desire and a longing to follow Jesus and all that he says. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER C Well, when an individual surrenders totally to God, the Holy Spirit takes possession of the life. The result is a mysterious union with God. The person becomes a new individual. They are now under the control of a completely new nature. We're going to be looking a little at that, a little bit further on. By receiving Christ, they receive power for victorious living. And day by day, as they abide in Christ, the Holy Spirit writes the principles of the law upon their heart. Maybe we could look at John 15 and verse four. SPEAKER D John 15, verse four. The Bible says abide in me, and I in you, as the branch cannot bear fruits of itself unless it abides in divine. Neither can you unless you abide in me. SPEAKER C So that abiding, that staying, that clinging to Jesus. Yes, it's a daily walk, it's a daily prayer, it's a daily relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. SPEAKER D Amen. That's right. Self can easily arise, but we need to surrender daily that we can abide with Jesus, that he can live in us. SPEAKER C Amen. You never see a vine, do you never see a grapevine that's lush and the fruit bearing that's separated from the main part. SPEAKER D That is true. SPEAKER C You have to be connected so important. And yet, as the vine does not say, well, I wish to be disconnected, they don't really have a choice. But we as humans, we're the ones that we can disconnect with God if we so choose. So it's a consciousness to make that connection with God daily. I find first thing in the morning is a wonderful time to connect with God. Thank Him for life as soon as I wake. Yes, thank Him and invite Him to make his home in my heart. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER C Well, does this mean our good works are the basis of our salvation? What is the basis of our salvation? Romans, chapter three, verse 27 and 28. SPEAKER D The Bible says where is boasting? Then it is excluded by what law of works? No, but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. SPEAKER C So salvation is totally of grace, never of works. We can never add to it. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C To improve our status with God. By faith we receive God's grace. Even when the bornagain Christian obeys God, it is Christ who empowers them to work. Our role is to cooperate with Christ and let him work in us. Our responsibility is to be willing to do anything Christ asks us to do. Love is the motive for obedience. Christ will never ask us to do anything he will not provide us the power to do. Have you experienced that, Hana? SPEAKER D Yes, that's true. SPEAKER C So true. SPEAKER D Sometimes it's like we try to do big, big things. But God doesn't often ask that when we are faithful to even the small things. God honor this, and he can give us the power to do so as well. SPEAKER C Amen. I remember when I first decided to fully commit everything to Christ. I was actually fearful because I thought, well, the Lord might send me somewhere where I really don't want to go. Yes, and perhaps I was afraid of that. But I discovered that as I surrendered my heart to the Lord, that he actually led me on gently. He did not ask me to do more than he gave me the strength to do. And that has always stood out in my mind. That it's not always will he expect grand and gross things of you, but that you will just be obedient to his voice wherever he plants you. SPEAKER D Amen. I was reminded of the quotes that I read recently. Is that okay if I yes, certainly. Hana. It says the Christians who is such in his private life in a daily surrender of self insincerity or purpose and purity of thought, in meekness, under provocation, in faith and pity in fidelity in what which is least the one who in the home life represent the character of Christ. Such a 1 may in the sight of God be more precious than even the world renowned missionary or martyr. I think it is amazing that we constantly give our life to God and be faithful in a small thing in front of us. It's honorable in the sight of God. SPEAKER C Amen. Anna, that's a beautiful quote. I love that. Thank you for sharing that. Well, how can I have this power to live a life that honors Christ? John, chapter one and verse twelve. SPEAKER D The Bible says but as many as received Him, to them he gave the right to become children of God to those who believe in his name. SPEAKER C So receiving Him and believing in his name. So to receive Christ is to receive this power as he enters our life. He is the power for victory in our natural state. We are incapable of doing good when we want to do what is right. Another power seems to take possession of us. Through Jesus we have the power to overcome. We no longer need to fail again and again, fixed in the rut of perpetual discouragement. Now we can be victorious. I think of that verse very familiar. Philippians, chapter four, verse 13 I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength. SPEAKER D Yes, that's right. It is discouraging when we try to do things the right thing. We know what's right. We want to do good things, but we do not have the power to do so. It is discouraging. But in Christ, the power is given. SPEAKER C Amen. SPEAKER D So we can go to God instead of trying to handle by ourself. SPEAKER C And when you claim the promise, when you're asking in prayer, you're believing what God says in his word, and you claim the promise, and you thank Him for fulfilling that promise in your life and go forward in faith, he does move mountains. He will be there to help you. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER C Well, when Jesus enters our heart through the Holy Spirit, what does he give us? In Romans chapter eight and verse eleven. SPEAKER D Romans eight, verse eleven, the Bible says, but if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal body through his spirit who dwells in you. SPEAKER C Amen. So that life that he gives us is spiritual life now and the promise of eternal life to come. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C Wow. We may have the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit living in us, by simply accepting Christ as our personal Lord and Savior. SPEAKER A Amen. SPEAKER C Confessing our sins, we will be forgiven. Well, what is the evidence that Christ does in reality dwell in our hearts? Let's go to Galatians, chapter five, verse 24 and 25. SPEAKER D It says, and those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passion and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. SPEAKER C So the greatest evidence, Hana, that Christ dwells in our hearts is a changed life, a transformed life. To crucify the flesh means to voluntarily go through the pain of surrendering our will to Christ or choosing. I'm not choosing my way, but I'm willing, and I'm going to choose God's way. SPEAKER D Yes, that's a daily battle, isn't it? We all have the selfishness or selfish desire or yeah, the passions, but we surrender it so that instead, spirit can dwell in us and have the Spirit of Christ. SPEAKER C Amen. What is the one guiding principle of Jesus life? John, chapter eight, and verse 29. SPEAKER D John, chapter eight, verse 29, it says, and he who sent me is with me. The Father has not left me alone, for I always do those things that pleases him. SPEAKER C Amen. So it's so important that we are willing to do those things that please God, and that's how Jesus lived his life, not according to what he wanted, but was willing to always live according to his Father's will. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER C It's an excellent way to live. Well, when Jesus breaks the bondage of sin, what wonderful privilege does he offer us? In Romans, chapter eight, verse 15 to. SPEAKER D 17, for you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the spirit of adoption, by whom we cry out, Abba, Father. The Spirit himself bears witness with our Spirit that we are children of God. And if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. SPEAKER C Amen. So we all belong to the family of God. Hana wow. What a wonderful privilege it is. SPEAKER A Yeah. SPEAKER C To know we are adopted sons and daughters of God. Through Christ. We are part of God's royal family with all the rights and privileges of a family member. We never need to feel lonely, insecure, or uncertain again. Jesus is our elder brother God, our wonderful, loving, heavenly Father, the Holy Spirit, our counsellor and guide, and the angels our protectors. What does Christ promise he will do deep within us? Hana hebrews eight, verse ten. SPEAKER D The Bible says, for this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days, says the Lord, I will put My law in their minds and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God and they shall be My people. SPEAKER C So he's going to put his laws in our minds, write them on our hearts. So it's something that will become a part of us. It becomes so natural that we will not think that it's hard work. SPEAKER D Yes, that's right. I really like that. Jesus god said, I will make with a covenant and I will put my law because it is something that we cannot do. As we have been talking, we can't change our action, but God said, I will put my law within you. SPEAKER C Amen. Just like the leopard can't change his spots. SPEAKER D That's so true. SPEAKER C But God promises to change us from within. He will place his law in our mind so we know it, and he will also write it in our hearts so we will love it. And by his law becoming part of the principles of our life, we have the indwelling of God, the Holy Spirit. Well, when God changes us inside, we will love to do his will. It will become a natural outworking in our life. Yes. What was Jesus heart? Hunger. Hebrews ten, verse seven, it says, then. SPEAKER D I said, Behold, I have come. In the volume of the book, it is written of me to do Your will of God. SPEAKER C Wow. So Jesus came and took on humanity. His sole purpose was to do His Father's will. SPEAKER A Yes. SPEAKER C He came to save the world from their sins and be our savior. But he came to live that obedient life. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C So, Hana, it's not just by his death, which gives us forgiveness of sin and cleansing, but by his obedient life that we are given power to live an obedient life. SPEAKER D That's so true. If Jesus decided to disobey, then we would not have any hope. But because Jesus faithfully obeyed and to do God's will, we are saved by his grace. SPEAKER C Amen. And he can give us the power, his power to live a victorious life. That's amazing. What an exchange. The old life for the new. Jesus'longing was to do the Father's will and his heart's desire was to please God. Wow. And every heart, our transformed hearts. By God's grace, we will want to do God's will as well. When will this miraculous new birth take place? Revelation, chapter three and verse 20. SPEAKER D It says, Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and open the door, I will come into Him and dine with Him and he with me. SPEAKER C It seems so straightforward, but we have to hear the knocking. Yes, it's ever so gentle. I don't believe it's. A loud thunderous knock, but there's that gentle prompting on our heart's door. And God is such a gentleman, Hana. He's waiting. And who actually opens the door in that verse? SPEAKER D It says that, hear my voice and open the door. So it's us who needs to open the door. Jesus doesn't force us to open. He doesn't just aggressively come, but we need to make a decision to allow Him to come into our life. SPEAKER C It's interesting because if you picture it in your mind and you listen in your heart for that gentle knocking of the Holy Spirit, god is looking for residence in our hearts. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C And as we choose to allow Him in, as we make that conscious choice to invite Him in to be the Lord of our life as he comes in, then he just doesn't want to be left in the lounge room of our heart. He actually wants to have fellowship with us. Because when you're eating and dining with someone, you are usually talking with that. SPEAKER D Person, sharing the meal, same meal, and talking and spending time together. SPEAKER C And this is what God is saying. I don't just want to come in to your heart. I want to actually have a relationship with you. And when we invite Him in, sometimes it's good to even visualize doing that and inviting Him in. He does come in and having Christ take up residence in our heart. By faith there's a peace that passes all understanding. There's a joy, because, you know, I'm not alone, but it's no longer I who live, but Christ who liveth in Me. We are experiencing it and we can take Him with us through the day. And we are reminded he does say, lo, I'm with you always, even to the end of the age as well. So this is life transforming this is life transforming power that changes us when he comes into our life and he lifts us from our human weakness and gives us his divine strength. No longer Hana, must we battle the desires of our human nature alone. We are now Conquerors through Jesus Christ. As we were saying before in Philippians, chapter four, verse 13, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. In Christ we are free to become the people we were born to be. It's always important to make a choice, and there are three choices that we could make. And it could be I choose to allow Jesus to enter my heart and completely change my nature. I like to choose Him every day to come in and change me completely every day. Or I have allowed some sin to hinder me from the full control of the Holy Spirit. We may be in that category. Or just now I repent of that sin and choose to surrender it and my life fully to Jesus. Whichever category you may find yourself in, if you're listening in or wherever you are, may the Holy Spirit guide you in your choice, but may you allow Him in. Let us pray together. Our dear, loving Heavenly Father, we thank you for the promise of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. We do not have to go through life in our own strength. But your promise is that you will come in and that you will eat with us, and we with you, that we may have fellowship, that we may have a relationship with our Creator, our Redeemer, our coming King, our Savior and our God. And that through our faith in your sacrifice in your perfect life, we may have victory. And we may not just have this experience for a moment, but we may be growing day by day as we remain in Christ, that we will have this personal relationship with you and that we may have opportunity to know the secret of the new life is abiding in Christ. We thank you for the forgiveness of our sins and giving us this wonderful experience, not just for a moment, but for a lifetime, because we ask it in Jesus name. Amen. SPEAKER A Amen. SPEAKER C Well, Hana, I've really enjoyed studying this subject today. SPEAKER D Me too. SPEAKER C And I'm so glad that we could be sharing it together as well. And so wonderful to have our listeners with us. And may God bless you and go in peace. As you meditate upon his word thy. SPEAKER A Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. And a light unto my pathed. You're the light unto my path. SPEAKER E If you have questions or comments about any of the programs you've heard, you can call three 3ABN Australia Radio within Australia on 024-97-3456, or from outside of Australia on Country Code 612-497-3456. Our email address is [email protected] that is radio at the number 3abnaustralia.org.au Our postal address is 3ABN, Australia, Inc. PO. Box seven five two. Morisset, New South Wales 2264, Australia thank you for your prayers and financial support. SPEAKER A The Savior is waiting to enter your heart. Why don't you let Him come in? There's nothing in this world to keep you apart. What is your answer to Him? Time after time. He has waited before. Now he's waiting again to see you willing to open the door. How he wants to. Ram sam savior, my friend. You're receive him and all your darkness will end within your heart. You time after time. He has waited before. Now he is waiting again to see if you're willing to open. You have written what you want from me in stone. A reflection of your character, O Lord. So I try. To keep your loss without regret. SPEAKER C But. SPEAKER A I'm easily distracted and forget so write them on my heart feel them in my mind the beauty of your Moran grace combined remind me just how lovely your commandments are and write them on the tablets of my heart. Only one desire inside of me. It's to be everything you've created me to be. And I know the only way that I can grow is for you to come inside and take control write them on my heart, see them in my mind the beauty of your Lord grace combined remind me just how lovely your commandments are and write them on the tablets of my heart your heart reflects your goodness. And the cross reveals your grace love the motivation behind your perfect ways so write them on my heart feel them in my mind the beauty of your war and grace combine write them on my heart and break them in my mind the beauty of your grace combined remind me just how lovely your commandments are and write them on the tablets of my heart. SPEAKER C That was Marlita Fong and friends singing write them on my heart. Before that, we heard Fountain View Academy sing the savior is waiting. And coming up next the Hamilton family will sing the surrender medley. SPEAKER A My life is in your head, O Lord I wanted to be there my hopes, my dreams and all my plan I trust entirely to your care my life is in your hands what better place for it to be? The one who sees beyond today must know what's best for you and me make my life a living sacrifice knowing it's the least that I can do make my life a living sacrifice holy and acceptable to you take my life all living my life I can do my hopes, my name only to you holy Spirit, take control. Take my body, mind and soul put a finger on anything that doesn't please you anything I do that grieves you holy Spirit, take control my lovely spirit, take control knowing my body, mind and soul put a finger on anything that doesn't anything I spirit, take control take my life and let it be consecrat death, Lord, to thee take myself and I will be ever only all for the heaven for the ram. SPEAKER F Hello, I'm Kaysie Butler and I want to welcome you to healthy living around the world. I am on site at the health training school at Centre for Health in Bulgaria, and today my guest is Jordan Sanchez. Welcome to the program, Jordan. SPEAKER G Thank you so much. SPEAKER F Now, Jordan, you're here at a health training school, obviously learning about healthy living. But where are you from originally? SPEAKER G I'm from Mexico in a small city that is Pisaco in Platzcala. SPEAKER F Okay, so all the way from Mexico, you're here in Bulgaria. So how did that come about? Why did you want to come here to this school? SPEAKER G I think because I decided to be missionary. So God opened doors by different places. So I was working like missionary in Egypt after I went to Levano. This is the way that I am here. SPEAKER C Yes. SPEAKER F Okay, so you've come here to learn healthy living so that you can help people when you're doing your missionary work? SPEAKER G Yeah, sure. Yeah, I can for that. SPEAKER F Good. So maybe would you like to share a little bit about what kind of things you've been learning in your training? SPEAKER G Okay, we are learning about how to use natural remedies the eight natural laws. SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G Also we are learning how we can find the eight natural laws by the Bible also. SPEAKER F So they're all in the Bible, all the eight natural laws. SPEAKER G We are studying about that. We are in the tear in the air. SPEAKER F Yes. SPEAKER G We didn't finish this. SPEAKER F Okay, you're still learning. That's very interesting. SPEAKER G So we are doing this now. And also for the place that we are going to serve, we are learning also how to explain this to Muslim people. So this is the way that we are going to do. SPEAKER F Okay. How you can actually teach that to others. That's very good. Have you had much experience with actually applying these principles in your own life? These healthy living principles? SPEAKER G Yeah, actually, when I entered to the university, even I was not Adventist, so I wanted to change to study, but also I wanted to have an experience with God. God was helping me there. I was canvassing, and I decided not eat anymore meat. SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G Maybe another things that usually not Adventists do. So for me, it was a very good experience and I didn't get any sick. And until now, I am maybe since 2010. Until now it's nine years without meat. SPEAKER F Right. So you've been all this time without eating any meat? Yeah. And you've been fine with that? SPEAKER G I am fine with that. I'm not feeling any problem. So I think that I am keeping my weight since this moment, and I am feeling good. SPEAKER F Great. SPEAKER G Yeah. SPEAKER F Okay, that's good to hear. How do you find the food? SPEAKER G Normally we cook trying to cook without oil or normal oil. We use something like more healthy, like olive oil or seed scripts oil or another kind of oil that is not bad for our body. Also, vegetables try to drink good water every day. Yes. Seeds. I like to eat seeds. So that help us to maybe sometimes we need some vitamins or some complement or food that we don't have. For example, nutrients that we have in the meat, we can supply by some seeds or food. SPEAKER F So you're able to get all the nutrients you need just from plant sources? SPEAKER G Yeah, for sure. SPEAKER F Okay. Good. SPEAKER G That's excellent. This is my experience and I like it. And I never mind to go back to my last way food or try to do it. SPEAKER F Okay, you're happy just to continue doing this way? SPEAKER G Yeah, I like it. And I think God provide everything as we can change our way to eat and be more healthy. So we are trying to do like before, like knowing in the then how the people were eating and after that also. So trying to avoid things that is not good for our bodies. SPEAKER F Yes, that is very good. So is there a lifestyle habit that you have or principle that you follow that is your favorite? SPEAKER G Actually, the eight long remedies is good. Like to make a total reform. SPEAKER F Okay, and which are those? What are the eight laws? In brief? SPEAKER G Okay. For example, nutrition, temperance, air, sunlight, trusting God. SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G Yeah. I remember five exercises. I'm liking the two. So these ones I like to do. I feel that it's helping us too much and to be more healthy. And that will help us to know more even to how to do the correct things more wise, so we can last a little bit more time for serving God. Not only for to be healthy. SPEAKER F So you can live longer. SPEAKER G I don't pretend to live longer, I pretend to be healthy. SPEAKER F Yes. SPEAKER G So I can work for God better. SPEAKER F Good. Okay. So you notice a difference in how your health affects your ability to work for God? SPEAKER G Of course. That help us a lot. Especially when you are sick or you have any problem, you cannot serve God as 100%. So trying to keep yourself help you to do better in serving God. SPEAKER F Wow, okay, that's good to hear. Have you noticed any difference in how living healthfully enables you to have a better relationship with God? SPEAKER G Of course. Also this is something about fidelity, even it's connected with that. SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G I can say about Daniel first chapter where he were called to stay in the kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar. SPEAKER F Yes. SPEAKER G So he were telling to the people who were giving him food that he wanted to give another kind of food because first the food that he were receiving, or they were receiving because they were friends. So they were receiving food that fears were given to the idols and after they were putting in their plates. SPEAKER F Yes. SPEAKER G You can imagine it's the food for the king. Maybe it's good food, but he didn't saw this. He saw the bad of this food. Because for example, they have drinking that is not good because probably the alcohol cannot help us to be wise. SPEAKER F Yes. SPEAKER G Or maybe another kind of drinking. So for sure, what they give to the idols was not clean food, was not pure as they were Jews. So they were trying to eat just as they know, as their loves have. So all of these kind of things help them to have a good relationship with god and the wisdom come from God. So that help to do something good, to improve, to help the people to be more spiritual. This is very important for have a connection with God. So I never mind a person, for example, that wanted to have a good relationship with God if they want to have pleasure by themselves, but not with God for themselves. Through what they like? Yes, what they like to eat, for example. SPEAKER F So if people do that, then how can they have their own pleasure but then have God? It doesn't really mix. SPEAKER G Yeah, but in this case everything is complete. Not only food, we need to have exercise because it's not working. For example, you try to be healthy, but you don't do exercise. So this not help you. It's like not have a balance. For example, also to get some vitamin D, that we really need vitamin D for be more healthy, not have depression sometimes. So sometimes that's not healthy. We are in a close place or we don't try to expose our body to the sun. So we need to know what is the good time to go outside. SPEAKER A So. SPEAKER G We cannot be affected also for the sun, because sometimes we get other problem, these kind of things that help us to have a good relationship with God. Yeah. SPEAKER F So you're noticing that a faithfulness in these natural health laws of our bodies is helping us with our faithfulness and closeness to God? SPEAKER G Yeah, of course. SPEAKER F That's interesting. That's very good the way you've described that. So if there is someone, if you meet someone, for example, who is wanting to change their lifestyle for better, maybe adopt one of those eight laws that you mentioned, what would you say is good for them to think about in terms of, I don't know, a strategy or something that you've learned in your experience that helps them in making those changes? SPEAKER G Okay, maybe if somebody wants to start, I start with something that is very important. SPEAKER F Yeah. SPEAKER G Can I say that I didn't read my Bible before to be Adventist? SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G Also I went to the university. I had at this time 23 years, 23 years old. So I wanted to know more about God. When my friends or people that I start to know, they start to teach me what Bible say. So for me was very nice experience that start me to transform my mind, my thinking. So we can start with that. With your relationship with God, with that you will be open for accept what is good. SPEAKER F So you think that having an open connection with God is an important foundation for making more changes in your life in other areas? SPEAKER G For sure, yeah. SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G This is the pillar that we need to establish everything. SPEAKER F And you found that in your own experience? SPEAKER G I found it interesting, yeah. What's something that really I want to say to the people that help a lot. So can I see many people that is very sick. People that have a lot of problems. But I think sometimes we forget God. SPEAKER F Yes. SPEAKER G Okay, so when we start with God again, so we can try to see after that, we transform many things. SPEAKER F Okay. SPEAKER G This is like the pillar that we need for change. SPEAKER F Right. God is the pillar for change. I like that. SPEAKER G Yeah. SPEAKER F I think that's well, we know God is all powerful. He's powerful that's tapping into a good source of strength for making changes. SPEAKER G Yeah. And everything is in the writings in the Bible. We need to know more about why we do this, why we do that, what is more correct all the time. We need to do this before read the Bible, what say God and we can start do something because God wants they're good for us, not make us any problem if not went or well. SPEAKER F That'S very he wants our health and good well being and happiness, doesn't he? God does. Yes, that's right. Well, very good. Thank you so much for sharing with us your thoughts and experience today. It's been very interesting. SPEAKER G Yeah. Thank you so much for inviting you're. SPEAKER F Welcome. We have been recording on location today at center for Health, the training school here at center for Health in Bulgaria. And we've been speaking with Jordan Sanchez, who's our guest today. You've been listening to healthy living around the world. I'm your host, Kaysie Butler. And until next time, God bless you. SPEAKER C You've been listening to a production of three ABN Australia radio.